Human=Sin?

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Human=Sin?

by ChurchwithoutWalls @ Wednesday, 17. Jun, 2009 – 08:07:33

had to blog this one on a recovery group in America that's set up for those who used to go to church but have had to break away.

At Recovering Religionists people learn how to live normally one person said“Most religions set up these impossibly high standards, so you’re set up to fail. Everything that’s human is a sin.”

Another said“I’m amazed at how much happier I am now that I’m not walking around with all that guilt.”

check it people and let me know what you think,ChurchwithoutWalls hearts all and that means YOU

http://www.beyondchron.org/news/index.php?itemid=7035
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11 Comments to Human=Sin?

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- tylluanpenry
- Wednesday, 17. Jun, 2009 @ 09:15:14
I think the most telling comment was from the Mormon who said that when he left the church he had to actually go out and build up a circle of friends.

I'm sure there are people who regard their beliefs (and I include pagans in this too) as a handy social tool.In the end it becomes a social club and little more.

As for sin - well, there are useful moral guidelines and there are those that are simply a stick to beat the dog with. A way of exercising power and control over others.

I certainly don't believe we're all sinners. None of us are perfect... but that's a different thing. I don't think I would want to be perfect. It would be awfully boring to know you were right all the time.
- - stmss
  - http://hopechild1.blog.co.uk
  - Wednesday, 17. Jun, 2009 @ 09:25:18
  You must be bored then Ty as we know you're perfect here
  
  I think the most interesting thing about this is the emphasis on differentiation;almost each denomination's USP (unique selling point)is about the minutiae. Don't drink caffeine. Don't celebrate birthdays. Don't wear lipstick.And so on and so on...
  
  Surely the churches will learn lessons from this? Or should you just call me Pollyanna?
  - - ChurchwithoutWalls
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    - Wednesday, 17. Jun, 2009 @ 09:39:53
    sad thing st m if people give up on God jsut becasue religion has let them down we must have ChurcheswithoutWalls
    - - stmss
      - http://hopechild1.blog.co.uk
      - Wednesday, 17. Jun, 2009 @ 11:09:40
      I didn't know I'd been elevated to sainthood-not that I'm complaining.
      
      I echo what you say about people giving up their search for Ggod but perhaps their happiness at being free makes up for it?
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- - ChurchwithoutWalls
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  - Wednesday, 17. Jun, 2009 @ 09:37:34
  great comments cheers what i noticed was "so you're set up to fail" which ties in with your power and control theme.
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- - jollyweez
  - Wednesday, 17. Jun, 2009 @ 19:55:26
  You are absolutely right in all things you have said above, ty. I agree with you and really enjoyed your last paragraph. So true! JW
  - - tylluanpenry
    - Wednesday, 17. Jun, 2009 @ 22:14:31
    Thank you! One thing I find about being a solitary is that there is no-one to tell me what I should be thinking... I have to work it out for myself. And really, that's the best way, because such lessons are often the most valuable!
    - - ChurchwithoutWalls
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      - Thursday, 18. Jun, 2009 @ 10:32:58
      your never alone with us lot around you the girl done good so far
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    - - jollyweez
      - Thursday, 18. Jun, 2009 @ 18:44:18
      Absolutely!
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- pastorcarol1 (Visitor)
- http://www.bible-matters.org
- Saturday, 20. Jun, 2009 @ 07:53:39
Hello, praise God!

Let me tell you something.. There are some people who were rougher around the edges than others before they met Christ. God finds wisdom in choosing what He'll work out first in us..

We're suppose to be bringin' Jesus 'home' to the body of Christ (expounding on who He is).. We're to edify and build up, and correct and rebuke, but all with the love of Christ.

People gotta know, if the Word of God (logos) does not support or back up the things their hearing, its not God-related! (And I'm a firm believer in a Sovereign God).

As far as rules'n'regulations?? I've seen overkill.. and unbiblical added on traditional human fluff stuff. We serve a big God.. He knew just how crazy it was gonna get in the churches, and church services.

I say we should just lead people to Jesus, let His Word be our guide, and listen to what He's got to say, and how He thinks things should be done for the day, Amen.

Bring Jesus 'home' to them. Preach and teach Jesus to peoples in a way that they will see Him. (There are 5 kinds of people that gather into church services, we are to reach all of them in 1 message.. that means we speak God's words.. and He sends it to the heart!)

God changes us. We set His example only as far as we've been conformed, or have attained as Apostle Paul penned it in the epistle to the Philippians.

It doesn't make it any easier to search out God amongst a church where some things are off. But its just like some family units.. some are smoother flowing than others, to put it mildly.

God's got a handle on the big picture. One can never experience abrasiveness in any way in the church, without God seeing and hearing, and making good out of it in the end!

Never forget who you belong to.. He loves us with a fierce love. A fiercely passionate love.

God puts the desire in each one of us to seek Him. When we make that our number 1 goal, then eventually we get to the place where we're close enough with God to stay in our church groups and start praying rather, for Him to show up Mighty and change hearts, purify understandings, and unify our revelation of Him and His Word..

Such great things are coming to the body of Christ. There is much hurt now, but there are also many glorious things happening.

I am surley stirred when I hear of things going on in the Church. Church services are to change boy! The Lord has his remnant under-shepherds! I write much usually. Bless God. God bless you all! Amen.
- - stmss
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  - Saturday, 20. Jun, 2009 @ 12:51:58
  Hello Carol & a very warm welcome to you. We're so pleased that you could share your extremely thoughtful insight with us.
  
  I was intrigued by your comment on '5 kinds of people'-can you tell me more please?
  
  Please consider joining the group so you can post on items that interest you. Love from all at Hope Child.
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